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Charging extra fee 'disgustingly greedy'Everyone is hard-pressed for money during this economic downturn. The University is not the only institution feeling the pain. What about our parents and their businesses? What about the students and their jobs? Charging $100 extra shows the University is more concerned with its well-being than that of the students....

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Kyle

posted 12/05/08 @ 9:22 AM EST

I know it is hard for a lot of people right now, but the 100 increase was a must. The state of Georgia is 2 billion dollars in debt right now and by law has to balance the budget. So they had to cut spending to the University system of Georgia and many other things to accomplish this. UGA is not the only school having issues. They all are. UGA could either take the cut by raising more funds or cutting people's jobs. In a time when the economy is bad no one wants to fire hard working people. That includes the University.
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its like a tax

posted 12/05/08 @ 12:42 PM EST

Originally posted by

Kyle

 I know it is hard for a lot of people right now, but the 100 increase was a must. The state of Georgia is 2 billion dollars in debt right now and by law has to balance the budget. So they had to cut spending to the University system of Georgia and many other things to accomplish this. UGA is not the only school having issues. They all are. UGA could either take the cut by raising more funds or cutting people's jobs. In a time when the economy is bad no one wants to fire hard working people. That includes the University.


The $100 fee is like a tax. There is no reason to remove it once in place. Is HOPE covering this fee? No. I work hard to maintain my scholarship so that I don't have to pay fees.
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Jake Campbell

posted 12/05/08 @ 11:50 AM EST

Connor McCarthy has been one of the most effective SGA Presidents that UGA has seen in a long time.

While I am in SGA, for the record, this post is an independent position. And I am not speaking on behalf of SGA.

I am, like you Brett, very frustrated with the Board of Regents for not hearing student input on the matter.

However, we cannot blame McCarthy for this fee increase. The Board of Regents refused to hear student input. So what could SGA do?

The can attend the Regent's meeting about the fee increase. You may not know this, but it was McCarthy and Vice President Batelli who organized SGA and its external affairs committee to attended the conference. They did and missed class.

It was McCarthy who conversed with other universities SGA's. It was McCarthy's administration who emailed its SGA members to speak against this measure. It was McCarthy who contacted other officials against the lack of student input.

He and his administration did all they could have done. You should be mad at the Board of Regents. If they could have spoken at the meeting, they would have. But McCarthy and Batelli still coalesced SGA and numerous student organizations and did the max of what he could have done.

The Regents said this is a 'temporary measure'. So I hope the future Presidents of SGA will continue to be like McCarthy and speak and advocate on behalf of the student body.
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Stop sucking up to Connor

posted 12/05/08 @ 2:30 PM EST

Originally posted by

Jake Campbell

 Connor McCarthy has been one of the most effective SGA Presidents that UGA has seen in a long time.

While I am in SGA, for the record, this post is an independent position. And I am not speaking on behalf of SGA.

I am, like you Brett, very frustrated with the Board of Regents for not hearing student input on the matter.

However, we cannot blame McCarthy for this fee increase. The Board of Regents refused to hear student input. So what could SGA do?

The can attend the Regent's meeting about the fee increase. You may not know this, but it was McCarthy and Vice President Batelli who organized SGA and its external affairs committee to attended the conference. They did and missed class.

It was McCarthy who conversed with other universities SGA's. It was McCarthy's administration who emailed its SGA members to speak against this measure. It was McCarthy who contacted other officials against the lack of student input.

He and his administration did all they could have done. You should be mad at the Board of Regents. If they could have spoken at the meeting, they would have. But McCarthy and Batelli still coalesced SGA and numerous student organizations and did the max of what he could have done.

The Regents said this is a 'temporary measure'. So I hope the future Presidents of SGA will continue to be like McCarthy and speak and advocate on behalf of the student body.


Oh please, his op-ed today said we should email HIM ideas on how to cut costs at the university. Rather than mobilize to get more state money he's taking it up the backside and doing their agenda.
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Senator

posted 12/05/08 @ 2:47 PM EST

What do you want him to do!?!?

It is done...he fought tooth and nail against it and now it's done. We must now look forward rather that misdirecting our anger towards Connor. This was the BOR!...you all have no concept of how things work. They don't care what students have to say.

Originally posted by

Jake Campbell

 Connor McCarthy has been one of the most effective SGA Presidents that UGA has seen in a long time.

While I am in SGA, for the record, this post is an independent position. And I am not speaking on behalf of SGA.

I am, like you Brett, very frustrated with the Board of Regents for not hearing student input on the matter.

However, we cannot blame McCarthy for this fee increase. The Board of Regents refused to hear student input. So what could SGA do?

The can attend the Regent's meeting about the fee increase. You may not know this, but it was McCarthy and Vice President Batelli who organized SGA and its external affairs committee to attended the conference. They did and missed class.

It was McCarthy who conversed with other universities SGA's. It was McCarthy's administration who emailed its SGA members to speak against this measure. It was McCarthy who contacted other officials against the lack of student input.

He and his administration did all they could have done. You should be mad at the Board of Regents. If they could have spoken at the meeting, they would have. But McCarthy and Batelli still coalesced SGA and numerous student organizations and did the max of what he could have done.

The Regents said this is a 'temporary measure'. So I hope the future Presidents of SGA will continue to be like McCarthy and speak and advocate on behalf of the student body.
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Where did you learn your organizing skills

posted 12/05/08 @ 4:04 PM EST

Originally posted by

Jake Campbell

 Connor McCarthy has been one of the most effective SGA Presidents that UGA has seen in a long time.

While I am in SGA, for the record, this post is an independent position. And I am not speaking on behalf of SGA.

I am, like you Brett, very frustrated with the Board of Regents for not hearing student input on the matter.

However, we cannot blame McCarthy for this fee increase. The Board of Regents refused to hear student input. So what could SGA do?

The can attend the Regent's meeting about the fee increase. You may not know this, but it was McCarthy and Vice President Batelli who organized SGA and its external affairs committee to attended the conference. They did and missed class.

It was McCarthy who conversed with other universities SGA's. It was McCarthy's administration who emailed its SGA members to speak against this measure. It was McCarthy who contacted other officials against the lack of student input.

He and his administration did all they could have done. You should be mad at the Board of Regents. If they could have spoken at the meeting, they would have. But McCarthy and Batelli still coalesced SGA and numerous student organizations and did the max of what he could have done.

The Regents said this is a 'temporary measure'. So I hope the future Presidents of SGA will continue to be like McCarthy and speak and advocate on behalf of the student body.


So now the argument turns into, its all the board of regents, we can't do anything! Yeah, you haven't even TRIED to organize students to protest anything, to do any kind of action or petitioning. NOT EVEN TRIED>

You made these expensive fliers all around campus saying you'd organize against budget cuts.

BULLSHIT.
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Senator Delaney

posted 12/05/08 @ 5:51 PM EST

"Haven't even tried"!?...wow. Are you blind!? SGA sent 17 students to Atlanta who skipped class to fight this at the Regent's office. Plus we contacted other SGAs from across the state and met them in Atlanta...do you really think a petition is going to change the Regent's mind? They know students don't want to pay $100, they don't need a petition or protest to tell them that.

Originally posted by

Jake Campbell

 Connor McCarthy has been one of the most effective SGA Presidents that UGA has seen in a long time.

While I am in SGA, for the record, this post is an independent position. And I am not speaking on behalf of SGA.

I am, like you Brett, very frustrated with the Board of Regents for not hearing student input on the matter.

However, we cannot blame McCarthy for this fee increase. The Board of Regents refused to hear student input. So what could SGA do?

The can attend the Regent's meeting about the fee increase. You may not know this, but it was McCarthy and Vice President Batelli who organized SGA and its external affairs committee to attended the conference. They did and missed class.

It was McCarthy who conversed with other universities SGA's. It was McCarthy's administration who emailed its SGA members to speak against this measure. It was McCarthy who contacted other officials against the lack of student input.

He and his administration did all they could have done. You should be mad at the Board of Regents. If they could have spoken at the meeting, they would have. But McCarthy and Batelli still coalesced SGA and numerous student organizations and did the max of what he could have done.

The Regents said this is a 'temporary measure'. So I hope the future Presidents of SGA will continue to be like McCarthy and speak and advocate on behalf of the student body.
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Jabba

posted 12/05/08 @ 12:24 PM EST

You're right. It isn't fair to blame just the president of SGA.

Blame all of SGA. They're pretty worthless.
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Senator

posted 12/05/08 @ 2:50 PM EST

You just showed how ignorant you are to what all goes on on this campus. You have no idea so don't act like you do... this was the Regents. They didn't care what ANY student had to say.

It's really easy to sit behind a computer and complain, why don't you try and actually do something?

Originally posted by

Jabba

 You're right. It isn't fair to blame just the president of SGA.

Blame all of SGA. They're pretty worthless.
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Student

posted 12/05/08 @ 10:09 PM EST

Originally posted by

Jabba

 You're right. It isn't fair to blame just the president of SGA.

Blame all of SGA. They're pretty worthless.


I just wanted to point out that all UGA students who pay their fees are members of SGA - so if you're a student, you pretty much just called yourself worthless. If you've got a problem, go to the SGA meetings.
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Another Senator

posted 12/07/08 @ 1:04 PM EST

Originally posted by

Jabba

 You're right. It isn't fair to blame just the president of SGA.

Blame all of SGA. They're pretty worthless.



Well thank you all for personally insluting everyone in sga. I hope that everyone who has commented or left a negative comment on this board has researched the $100 fee. The decision was made without the imput of sga. Connor and Nikki had no control whatsoever over the fee being passed. SGA is a link from the students to the administration, Connor and Nikki as well as other members of SGA attended the board of regents meeting.
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SGA is not a Government

posted 12/05/08 @ 3:21 PM EST

In five years at UGA, my understanding of SGA accomplishments is very limited. Either this organization is poor at marketing, or has few accomplishments to broadcast.

Every time an issue develops, the SGA is swept to the side. Repeatedly, the SGA has proven itself to have no power, or leverage against the University.

SGA must learn to organize its constituents, or recognize it is not a government. I advise SGA leaders to read this article, and rethink SGA goals.

http://media.www.redandblack.com/media/storage/paper871/news/1998/02/20/UndefinedSection/Sga-Needs.Constitution.For.Bettered.Leverage-2585040.shtml
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jack

posted 12/05/08 @ 3:53 PM EST

- SGA stopped the 72-hour policy when the administration tried make us incriminate ourselves
- SGA saved the Spanish Minor when the administration tried to remove it.
- SGA is trying to get us more tickets and to stop upperclassmen scalpers from screwing freshmen.
- SGA sent 17 senators to Atlanta with less than a day's notice to protest the $100 fee.

Get your facts together.
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Just Bend Over

posted 12/05/08 @ 6:32 PM EST

Originally posted by

jack

 - SGA stopped the 72-hour policy when the administration tried make us incriminate ourselves
- SGA saved the Spanish Minor when the administration tried to remove it.
- SGA is trying to get us more tickets and to stop upperclassmen scalpers from screwing freshmen.
- SGA sent 17 senators to Atlanta with less than a day's notice to protest the $100 fee.

Get your facts together.


Great! the SGA is able to achieve token level success fighting against policies and actions that are practically unconsititutional (72 hour rule) or completely illogical (removing the spanish minor). Its really cute!

Anyone who thinks that the admin. of the university, or the BOR, give a rat's ass what a group of KIDS think IS CRAZY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MONEY!!
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Seriously...Just bend over

posted 12/05/08 @ 9:56 PM EST

Originally posted by

jack

 - SGA stopped the 72-hour policy when the administration tried make us incriminate ourselves
- SGA saved the Spanish Minor when the administration tried to remove it.
- SGA is trying to get us more tickets and to stop upperclassmen scalpers from screwing freshmen.
- SGA sent 17 senators to Atlanta with less than a day's notice to protest the $100 fee.

Get your facts together.


Personally, I enjoy the scalping situation. Makes finding tickets years after you graduate possible. Just wait and see.
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jack

posted 12/05/08 @ 11:50 PM EST

Would you suggest they don't fight against administrative policies that are "practically unconstitutional" or "illogical"?

Had they not, I imagine those policies would still be in place...

Originally posted by

jack

 - SGA stopped the 72-hour policy when the administration tried make us incriminate ourselves
- SGA saved the Spanish Minor when the administration tried to remove it.
- SGA is trying to get us more tickets and to stop upperclassmen scalpers from screwing freshmen.
- SGA sent 17 senators to Atlanta with less than a day's notice to protest the $100 fee.

Get your facts together.
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Kate

posted 12/05/08 @ 6:39 PM EST

re: "Models endure training, exercise"

way to utilize the word thesaurus!
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Samantha

posted 12/05/08 @ 7:45 PM EST

Originally posted by

Kate

 re: "Models endure training, exercise"

way to utilize the word thesaurus!


-'compendium' is the only word I had to look up... I do not use the 'word thesaurus.'
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Word Thesaurus?!

posted 12/05/08 @ 10:05 PM EST

Who honestly says 'word thesaurus'? What an idiotic way of speaking.

Samantha, I thought your letter was very well written. I've never had ill feelings towards models, but your point of view was completely foreign to me. I appreciate your insight.

Thanks for sharing.
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Phillip Brettschneider

posted 12/07/08 @ 8:39 PM EST

Sign your names, Senators. Show some pride of position, will you? I've put my name on this letter and received enough phone calls, e-mails, and FB messages as a result; you may do the same.

The SGA must organize. The SGA remains irrelevant to the student body because it does not communicate its opinions and positions efficiently or publicly. I am told, by an erstwhile senator, that McCarthy expressed outrage WITHIN SGA; well, we'd damn well like to hear some without as well.

If the SGA are student leaders, then they ought to behave as such. Work with the student body. Demand accountability. Mobilize. Do not give us a weak "Well, we were lied to . . . " like children excusing a weakness. Give us a reason and a cause, and work with *us* to change matters.

In your positions--Senators, Officers--you ought to be making enemies in the admin and BOR. That's how you know you're doing your job right. If it is really true that you do not have the power to effect change, then my point stands: Dissolve. As a friend recently put it, "The illusion of good government is a greater evil than bad government or no government at all."

Well, McCarthy? This isn't a condemnation. I've issued a challenge. Do you intend to gamble your reputation and rise to it?
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Michael Jordan

posted 12/07/08 @ 11:58 PM EST

You make the $100 fee sound like an act of British tyranny. It's not like the Board of Reagents is going to take the money and pocket it. They're taking the money and using it for our benefit.

Here's what really infuriates me: some of the people who are bitching about this fee are the same people who want more from the University. Let's take class sizes for example. How do you expect Georgia to decrease class sizes if it can't afford to pay the professors it currently employs? Let's not even mention hiring more. It is ridiculous for you to be so miserly over $100.

And I don't want to hear this bullshit: "It's not the money. It's the principle. The Board of Reagents broke the rule!" If you think this, then you are uninformed. True, there was a rule that stated that the BOR needs a student majority to increase fees. However, there is also a rule that states de facto that the BOR can overturn any rule it wants. I'm not saying it's fair, because it obviously isn't, but it's reality.

Moreover, you using Connor as a scapegoat for the actions of a bunch of old guys. That's just silly. Face it: your $100 is gone. No petition, demonstration, whatever, is going to get it back, because from the point of view of the BOR, they are doing what is best for the university and its students, which includes you.

And for the record, I am not in SGA. I have my own problems with student government, but I know for a fact that every single member of SGA does more for the university than I do. So I don't complain. You shouldn't either.
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Phillip Brettschneider

posted 12/08/08 @ 9:48 AM EST

By the way: anyone who'd like to discuss this face-to-face, find me on Facebook and we'll do coffee.
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Phillip Brettschneider

posted 12/08/08 @ 1:17 PM EST

Do you want to take some actual action against the people on the Board of Regents? Click on my name above. I wrote a blog post with a very basic idea of what the SGA COULD be doing--and provided contact information for each and every member of the Board of Regents, should you like to speak to or e-mail them personally.
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Students should organize for governor

posted 12/08/08 @ 3:21 PM EST

All you PERDUE suck ups should realize he appoints the BOR and keeps cutting education funding -- resutling in this.
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jim

posted 12/08/08 @ 4:00 PM EST

calm down phil you psycho. its not just uga, all schools are getting the $100 bill. sorry your uga student president didnt take down the entire education system of georgia. maybe next time crazy.
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club penguin

posted 3/17/09 @ 8:58 AM EST

I don't want to hear this bullshit: "It's not the money. It's the principle. The Board of Reagents broke the rule!" If you think this, then you are uninformed. True, there was a rule that stated that the BOR needs a student majority to increase fees. However, there is also a rule that states de facto that the BOR can overturn any rule it wants. I'm not saying it's fair, because it obviously isn't, but it's reality.
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