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UGAAlert delayed so as not to warn Zinkhan

Abstract:
Approximately one-and-a-half hours after neighbors heard gunshots from the Athens Community Theater, students, faculty and employees received text messages alerting them of the event. Professor George Zinkhan was not one of them. University Police Chief Jimmy Williamson said UGAAlert was delayed 20 minutes because University police wanted to ensure Zinkhan would not receive the message....

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lizd

posted 4/28/09 @ 7:52 AM EST

Since when did you let Jimmy Williamson start writing for the Red and Black? Do some INVESTIGATIVE reporting. Williamson was criticized today for his delay in the AJC by watchdog group Security on Campus. That's the real story. We don't need another article to feed Jimmy Wilkinson's ego. Let him continue to do what he does best, which is get all the marshmallow shooters and toy guns off campus.

mb

posted 4/28/09 @ 9:10 AM EST

Originally posted by

lizd

Since when did you let Jimmy Williamson start writing for the Red and Black? Do some INVESTIGATIVE reporting. Williamson was criticized today for his delay in the AJC by watchdog group Security on Campus. That's the real story. We don't need another article to feed Jimmy Wilkinson's ego. Let him continue to do what he does best, which is get all the marshmallow shooters and toy guns off campus.


Wow even when you are trying to insult him you still spell his name wrong. Even if Chief Williamson didn't do everything perfect he still deserves respect for protecting your dumb ass. There were a million things for him to do when this happened. How do you even know it was his fault that something wasn't done to your standards? Just because the AJC says something doesn't mean all the facts are there, as with any journalism or reporting.

James

posted 4/28/09 @ 9:07 AM EST

What's up here? Doublespeak? Yesterday, you were so proud of your "Two minute" response time!

Now is that something to be proud of or not ?

(ret.)

posted 4/28/09 @ 9:20 AM EST

For a lot of good that SOC has done, they have focused some of their advocacy efforts into unattainable & unreasonable expectations for higher educations communities to meet. They are often too quick to criticize & lack real life comprehension of what it is like to manage emergency incidents in real time. It seems like SOC can be depended on by the media to express wildly indigent opinions, regardless of reality. Delaying notifications to ensure the known suspect would not receive the message was a prudent investigative thought & reaction.

DT

posted 4/28/09 @ 10:18 AM EST

lizd, james & (ret.)... What a bunch of whiners!!!!! Do you know the definition of a critic?... "Someone who knows the way but can't drive the car." I'm thinking that if any of you COULD drive the f-ing car you'd steer it right into a ditch. Get off your asses and stop whining.

KYPowerball

posted 4/28/09 @ 10:27 AM EST

Great reading, thanks for the info.

James

posted 4/28/09 @ 11:47 AM EST

DT:

You have no knowledge of my background, training or experience in this area. You might be surprised.

Now that said, would you like to DEBATE the issue of a two hour notification response time as being adequate or do you just want to call names?

Your choice.

lizd

posted 4/28/09 @ 1:29 PM EST

Oh yea, Jimmy's been a great asset to the University. Anybody remember the arson case that was lost because of the tactics Jimmy and his crew used in coercing a confession. Want to know how much that debacle cost the University in the insurance money paid out? What about the arrests Jimmy made for toy guns that cost families undue stress and thousands of dollars when he couldn't even read the freaking law correctly and let students store real weapons on campus in direct violation of Ga. Law? A PARENT had to figure that one out for even the chief counsel of UGA and even they had to ask the AG who informed them in about 5 minutes they were in violation of the very law they were arresting kids for. And that huge judgment for the women who "stole" the computer equipment that Jimmy though he had the authority to serve a search warrant in Gwinnett Co. The guys is a liability. He must have some heavy shit on Adams, etc to still be there. Oh, I almost forgot... his dressing up like Elliot Ness for his TV performance regarding the Louis Fish case and his ridiculous prosecution of Whitner Miller. Hey Jimmy, did you check Whitner's house for the professor?

Yeah, I feel much better with Jimmy in da house....NOT.

And by the way, this is a blog, not a freaking English lit paper. IN case you don't know, blogs arent' graded.

NancyNoCare

posted 4/28/09 @ 1:38 PM EST

open your mouth and suck on lizdEEZ NUTS!

s. waters

posted 4/28/09 @ 2:55 PM EST

Hey NancyNoCare. I think they're called balls, not nuts.

boggled

posted 4/28/09 @ 4:09 PM EST

Delaying an alert that could save lives simply because you might alert the perpetrator that he has committed a crime, is inexcusable. And if you must ensure that he was not sent the alert, that should take 5 minutes tops, anyway.

thanks!

posted 4/28/09 @ 4:47 PM EST

Originally posted by

boggled

Delaying an alert that could save lives simply because you might alert the perpetrator that he has committed a crime, is inexcusable. And if you must ensure that he was not sent the alert, that should take 5 minutes tops, anyway.


Phew, I'm glad that you, with your intimate knowledge of the computer systems involved in the UGAlert system, were able to chime in here with regard to the timing. It's experts like this that make the world a better place, otherwise people would just be blindly speculating on stuff they know absolutely nothing about!

w banks

posted 4/28/09 @ 5:16 PM EST

I think Jimmy Williamson is posting on this thread. He's mad that he hasn't been on TV about all this. Poor Jimmy, can't be the center of attention.

Rex

posted 4/28/09 @ 5:48 PM EST

It is easy to say what could have been done now but at the time the police were doing what they thought was best.We have two kids who are going through hell while people are selfish enough to complain about what could have been done. The guy was getting out of the city. He wasnt going to harm students. This was a domestic problem.
Also, someone gets shot here about once a month in athens. You guys dont start freaking out over not getting a UGAALERT any other time.

cn

posted 4/28/09 @ 8:18 PM EST

I'm not complaining about the response, necessarily... However, I feel that if this was an issue that would come up (deleting the shooter from the system) that would have been one of the first things they made sure they knew how to do when they set up UGA Alert. I do hope that the UGA/Athens police (or whoever controls the system) have taken that difficulty with the alert system as a serious learning experience, and will take the time to troubleshoot their system a bit, and implement the proper training to ensure that there is a clear way to delete one person, or multiple people from the system in a timely manner... as well as other issues that may arise.

On another note, a lot of the posts on R&B are completely LAME. It seems no one has anything better to do than make fun of other posters and completely ignore the article itself. It really sucks having to weed out the stupid remarks just to read the few meaningful comments regarding the topic at hand. It completely defeats the purpose of commenting on the article. Go make fun of eachother on facebook.

BitterOldAcademic

posted 4/29/09 @ 12:40 PM EST

Of course you can lock down one of the largest universities in America. Of course you can keep adults from going anywhere in a town that is interwoven with the university itself. Of course you can extract a contact's number from a database of more than 60,000 contacts in five miniutes "tops" under pressurized crime-as-it-happens circumstances. Of course 100 percent safety in the real world is possible. Of course you all eat fairycake and fart lotus blossoms. Grow up, people. Life itself ensures risk. The state is not your babysitter. There is no such thing as complete security. Study Bonhoeffer's discussion of risk and safety, or Holderlin's, or Wittgenstein's. Get a clue.
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