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Preacher stalls Latino rights rally

Abstract:
A shouting match broke out at Tate Plaza Thursday when an open air preacher interrupted a scheduled rally by the Hispanic Student Association.

Celina Correa, the organization's president, told Brother JK to stop preaching when he showed up at Tate Plaza toting a poster board that condemned various groups such as "ankle biters" and "sports nuts....

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couple of thoughts

posted 10/10/08 @ 8:55 AM EST

1. Its Correa who sounds like the bigger bitch here.

2. There's an entire conference for guys like Brother JK and Brother Micha? That must be the most annoying place in the world. I'm sure as hell avoiding Marietta on October 15.

Blaise Parker

posted 10/11/08 @ 12:50 AM EST

Originally posted by

couple of thoughts

1. Its Correa who sounds like the bigger bitch here.


Excuse me, but in your rush to call a woman you probably don't even know a "bitch" because she stood up for her organization, you seem to have ignored the fact that she was in the right. They had the area reserved and someone who is not even a member of the university community was interrupting a planned event with a guest speaker (possibly paid for with organization funds--I don't know).

Which of the following phrases do you deem so very "bitchy"?

"I asked him to stop talking because we were going to have a speaker," Correa said.

"He has a right to be here," Correa said. "We just wanted him to be respectful."

"He called me a hypocrite," she said. "I'm just asking for a little respect."

Wow. That bitch. How dare she.

Unimpressed Dawg

posted 10/10/08 @ 10:02 AM EST

He-ain't-my-Brother JK is not an argument for freedom of speech. He's not an argument for Christianity. He's a belated argument for contraception for his parents.

I have a solution

posted 10/10/08 @ 10:20 AM EST

what about throwing excrement at this man while he open air preaches? I mean who wants to stand somewhere when people are throwing dog poo at you?

David Alper

posted 10/10/08 @ 10:49 AM EST

I think that Brother JK may have violated Sylvia Mendez's constitutional right of free speech. She was part of a scheduled, reserved public assembly, and he allegedly interfered with it with what appeared to be disorderly conduct. If JK felt that he was treated rudely, that's his opinion and his problem.

George

posted 10/10/08 @ 11:33 AM EST

This just in, people have the right to free speech in America. Get over it. This guy knows people don't agree with him and he gets off on having people yell at him, now you put him on the front page of the Red and Black? Do another story about the weather and put it on the front page or something. The Latino group looks like the fascist assholes here, just let him preach and do your own thing while he is doing it, after all it is suppose to be a civil rights speech. How do you say irony in Spanish?

Dennis

posted 10/10/08 @ 11:41 AM EST

Since I am in the picture and was there when Correa approached JK I can say that she was not rude to him. The plaza is a free speech zone and JK had the right to be there, but not when it is reserved. That is and has been (as long as I've been there) the policy of the Tate Center. Correa was not yelling, but was rather trying to speak over the noise. When JK began talking to her he was rude and speaking loud enough for the entire plaza to hear. HSA had every right to ask him to leave, there are other free speech zones on campus that were not reserved.

Rachel Chang

posted 10/10/08 @ 11:41 AM EST

Firstly, I would like to disclaim that I'm not well-versed in University policy about Tate Plaza or other various policies that would concern this issue. But I am quite certain there has to be something violated by having the preacher interrupt the Latino rights rally. Really, he interrupted a student-organized, time-based, scheduled event that even had a guest speaker. And considering that this IS a university, shouldn't students' rights have a hand in this? Granted, Correa probably said or did some regrettable things, but wasn't she also being antagonized by this man?
Additionally, what about having strangers on campus? I know that UGA is an open campus, but it makes me angry to see that just about anyone is allowed into the center of the university and can do as he pleases without suffering some consequence. If a group had invited Brother JK, that would be fine--I would still be displeased to have someone misrepresenting Christianity and being rude and disrespectful to students on campus, but I wouldn't say anything of it because he was a guest intentionally invited by students/faculty/staff of UGA. However, he has interfered with a student organization without invitation or cause. It's unacceptable that such people are allowed on campus, allowed to abuse the student body, and then let go without a word.
Let him have his "free speech" and have him believe what he wants. But do not let him and others like him provoke students nor interfere with University organizations and the student body.

George

posted 10/10/08 @ 12:29 PM EST

Ok, if the plaza was reserved that is different. From reading the article I thought that they just went up to the preacher and were trying to get him to leave so they could have the full stage. If he was interrupting the speech then I guess resistance is to be expected. Still, he would never do this if he didn't get a reaction out of people, it is better to just ignore him and other people like this and eventually he will go away and not come back. These kind of people get off on arguing with people and I sometimes think they don't even believe what they are saying but just love the thrill of having everyone argue with them.

Stay Puft

posted 10/10/08 @ 4:11 PM EST

So you can reserve a free speech zone?

Somehow that doesn't sound right...

hart

posted 10/10/08 @ 6:08 PM EST

Civil Rights activists are outdated. The old guard race politics are damaging at this point, please stop manufacturing controversy where there is none.

love the free speech but shut up and stop embarrassing everyone

posted 10/10/08 @ 11:53 PM EST

Just because "brother" jk has a loud/obnoxious voice doesn't mean that he is permitted to yell over everyone around him. He shouldn't have the upper hand just because he's louder and more annoying - it's like letting the annoying person talking/yelling in the movie theater to keep going, even though EVERYONE else present is there to watch/hear the movie despite him! Yes, there is free speech in the United States, but we also operate on the principle of minority rights with majority rule, meaning that he has a right to be there, but when 100% of the people present want him to shut his mouth, he is officially a nuisance rather than the lone voice of opposition.

Brother Mitch

posted 10/11/08 @ 6:45 PM EST

The visiting preacher is one of the finest preachers in the country. The campus should be honored to have his presence. He's only one of HUNDREDS of like preachers across the country. God's army is on the move!!

Wasn't shook....

posted 10/11/08 @ 9:44 PM EST

Originally posted by

Brother Mitch

The visiting preacher is one of the finest preachers in the country. The campus should be honored to have his presence. He's only one of HUNDREDS of like preachers across the country. God's army is on the move!!

Annoying people, not respecting their equal rights, and having a general disregard for others does not equal a spiritual shake-up. It's just arrogant, self-centered and shows how he prefers to bully and intimidate rather than help those around him. What a poor soul he has.

Brother Mitch

posted 10/11/08 @ 6:50 PM EST

The traveling preacher was doing a great work! He probably shook up that campus more in a few hours than most "christians" have during the WHOLE YEAR! Go preacher go!

Unimpressed Dawg

posted 10/12/08 @ 2:13 AM EST

Originally posted by

Brother Mitch

The traveling preacher was doing a great work! He probably shook up that campus more in a few hours than most "christians" have during the WHOLE YEAR! Go preacher go!


Well, damn! I felt JK wasn't really my brother and that he had an imbecilic understanding of how basic manners and social order work--since another group had actually reserved the area for their own speaker--until you used all those exclamation points!!! Plus, Sibling JK done felt led by God to be an asshole. I've seen the light!! You, Sibling Mitch, clearly feel strongly whatever the hell it is you feel!!! Now, I'm all excited about the moving of the spirit!! Sibling JK is one of only hundreds spewing the same nonsense, and since God's word has sometimes been considered nonsense, JK's nonsense must also be God's own nonsense!!

For those of us keeping logical score at home, the syllogism is quite simple: 1) God's message has sometimes been received as nonsense; 2) Sibling JK's message seems like nonsense; 3) therefore, JK's nonsensical message must also be God's seemingly nonsensical message!!!!! For those of you who are busy and prefer an enthymeme, since God's message has sometimes been received as nonsense, JK's nonsensical message must be God's. Thank God for Sibling JK's message and Sibling Mitch's brilliant use of punctuation marks that are, for me, like unto the brilliant light on the road to Damascus for St. Paul!!!!!!!! Were it not for Sibling Mitch's liberal use of punctuation, I should never have come to know the truth of the matter, which is this:

Maybe according to 1 Corinthians 13, Love is patient, kind, seeks not its own, isn't puffed up with pride, etc., but Sibling JK's message from God is apparently unrelated to that message. According to Sibling JK, God's message isn't patient, kind, focused on others, or without pride. It must be delivered regardless of who has reserved the time and space; it must ignore other groups' needs; it must place all other people's messages below it. We have our conclusion: according to Sibling JK, God's message isn't Love. Now, shall we blame Sibling JK for this message, or shall we blame God?

JK Kranert

posted 10/11/08 @ 11:18 PM EST

Well Praise the Lord! All in a day's work of preaching and serving Jesus!

It was not a big surprise to me that they would flat out lie and say I interrupted a scheduled speaker. I had been in the plaza since 11:30AM, it was now 2PM, and we had no problems until the young lady stormed up and told the wife and I that we had to "leave the area right now or she would call the police."

Red flags fly when I hear this. Are we being singled out?

I felt it necessary to stand my ground, but there was no shouting match, and when one of the faculty guys eventually came out and explained the situation clearly, I stepped to the side and stopped preaching without incident.

Can you say over-sensationalized? Yep, you got it.

They did run us off on Friday because of a "reserved" rock concert in the plaza. We tried the alternate spot, but it was dead as a doornail.

I kind of got the sense that this campus has very little if ANY Bible preaching at all. Many were staring with mouth-wide-open amazement for the entire preach on Thursday. Again, this is a HUGE campus with thousands of kids milling about ALL DAY. We desperately need more laborers. Come on out and help, Christians

Serving Christ,

JK

Unimpressed Dawg

posted 10/12/08 @ 2:31 AM EST

Originally posted by

JK Kranert

Well Praise the Lord! All in a day's work of preaching and serving Jesus!

It was not a big surprise to me that they would flat out lie and say I interrupted a scheduled speaker. I had been in the plaza since 11:30AM, it was now 2PM, and we had no problems until the young lady stormed up and told the wife and I that we had to "leave the area right now or she would call the police."

Red flags fly when I hear this. Are we being singled out?

I felt it necessary to stand my ground, but there was no shouting match, and when one of the faculty guys eventually came out and explained the situation clearly, I stepped to the side and stopped preaching without incident.

Can you say over-sensationalized? Yep, you got it.

They did run us off on Friday because of a "reserved" rock concert in the plaza. We tried the alternate spot, but it was dead as a doornail.

I kind of got the sense that this campus has very little if ANY Bible preaching at all. Many were staring with mouth-wide-open amazement for the entire preach on Thursday. Again, this is a HUGE campus with thousands of kids milling about ALL DAY. We desperately need more laborers. Come on out and help, Christians

Serving Christ,

JK


Yes, since you were there at 11:30, it's impossible that someone had a reservation that began at 2:00. That seems as reasonable as . . . wait . . . no, that isn't reasonable at all. My bad.

Yes, I completely agree that you really were being singled out! Since no other group was interfering with a UGA-sanctioned organization's scheduled time for an event in the center of campus, neither Correa nor the Hispanic Student Association complained about the Shriners, the Rotary Club, Sigma Nu fraternity, Little League Baseball, or the chess club. You were clearly singled out unfairly--as the fuck-wit who was actually there and who was actually stealing time from a legitimate university group who had reserved time and space on its own university campus.

Of course, called to a much higher purpose, you aren't subject to such trivialities, are you? (or, at least, I'm sure that's how your Christian martyrdom explains it to you).

"The wife"?! What the hell! Like "the suitcase," "the bench," "the dog"? Glad you're here, Sibling JK. You really add to the conversation and to the advancement of human understanding and relations.

As for the campus's lacking "ANY Bible preaching at all," I assure you that you are only one of a nameless and numberless gaggle of thugs who harangue all passers-by in Tate Plaza. All the open-mouthed amazement, I assure you, was about there being another dumbass shouting condemnations without establishing any relationships whatsoever. If true Christians come out, as you ask, they will only spirit you away into the back of a van that speeds off to another state.

JK IS A CREEP

posted 10/13/08 @ 1:37 PM EST

Originally posted by

JK Kranert

Well Praise the Lord! All in a day's work of preaching and serving Jesus!

It was not a big surprise to me that they would flat out lie and say I interrupted a scheduled speaker. I had been in the plaza since 11:30AM, it was now 2PM, and we had no problems until the young lady stormed up and told the wife and I that we had to "leave the area right now or she would call the police."

Red flags fly when I hear this. Are we being singled out?

I felt it necessary to stand my ground, but there was no shouting match, and when one of the faculty guys eventually came out and explained the situation clearly, I stepped to the side and stopped preaching without incident.

Can you say over-sensationalized? Yep, you got it.

They did run us off on Friday because of a "reserved" rock concert in the plaza. We tried the alternate spot, but it was dead as a doornail.

I kind of got the sense that this campus has very little if ANY Bible preaching at all. Many were staring with mouth-wide-open amazement for the entire preach on Thursday. Again, this is a HUGE campus with thousands of kids milling about ALL DAY. We desperately need more laborers. Come on out and help, Christians

Serving Christ,

JK


I am just curious Mr. JK, but clearly you did not respond very well when Correa reportedly told you to leave now or she would call the cops, so what is it the makes you actually believe and devote your life to changing peoples views on christianity by telling them to "Turn or Burn in hell?" You are a primary example that people do not respond well to threats, in fact, they tend to rebell against the threats just as you did.

I feel no respect for you by any means JK. After reading this article I became interested in your so claimed "fame" so I did a little research. While trying to find the views you attempt to spread across the nation and stories worth noting for you, All I could find were articles about how charges were pressed on you at University of Southern Florida. You reportedly charged a conservative dressed christian girl and threw your fist at her face and then stopped inches from her face and called her a whore. You now have assault charges being pressed on you. And from USF's newspaper, this was not the only instance that has occurred on their campus and particularly with this girl. I can assure you that this institution will not be run over by your crazy acts in fear of being accused of violating your freedom of speech rights. Do no attempt this here, YOU WILL NOT SUCCEED!

PS - Do your research "Mr. Best Preacher of Your Kind" before you make accusations such as "UGA doesn't even teach courses on The Bible. I am actually taking a religion class right now about christianty and I believe that I would rather learn from an educated professional with accreditation rather than a hypothetical, in your face preacher that probably started his own church to make himself feel better because he lost his previous dead-end job.

Bruiser

posted 10/12/08 @ 2:36 AM EST

He has a right to free speech. I have a right to stick a free ball-gag in his mouth.

BW

posted 10/12/08 @ 3:16 PM EST

"I kind of got the sense that this campus has very little if ANY Bible preaching at all"

And churches seem not to have many university courses taught.

Jimmy Dugan

posted 10/12/08 @ 6:04 PM EST

"To Unimpressed dawg:"

You are a waste of space. Do you think anyone reads that shit you post? After you spend so much time composing long responses, convincing yourself that they are brilliantly logical, (and that others will read them,) do you realize how utterly worthless you are? "Sibling JK?" Is that clever? Were you proud of yourself for that one?

The truth is, you are more annoying than any of those preachers. At least they occasionally see the light of day- instead of letting their fat asses rot behind computer screens while coming up with endless online posts THAT NOBODY READS!

Unimpressed Dawg

posted 10/12/08 @ 11:10 PM EST

Originally posted by

Jimmy Dugan

"To Unimpressed dawg:"

You are a waste of space. Do you think anyone reads that shit you post? After you spend so much time composing long responses, convincing yourself that they are brilliantly logical, (and that others will read them,) do you realize how utterly worthless you are? "Sibling JK?" Is that clever? Were you proud of yourself for that one?

The truth is, you are more annoying than any of those preachers. At least they occasionally see the light of day- instead of letting their fat asses rot behind computer screens while coming up with endless online posts THAT NOBODY READS!


[sniff!] That's just mean, you . . . you . . . you big meanie! [sniff!]

The Bobster

posted 10/13/08 @ 9:04 AM EST

Ha ha ha ha.... look on my works, ye mighty, and despair! Good to see my protege, Unimpressed Dawg, carry on my work in my absence. And doing such a fine job of it! Congrats! You are the preeminent hater of the R&B now, my son. I look forward to cackling from afar; it's easier to stay retired knowing you're out there....

civil rights advocate

posted 10/13/08 @ 4:00 PM EST

Okay people, I'll say this once, and then let you go back to your southpark and gossip girl. I cannot violate your "right to free speech." Why? NOT because its in the constitution, and NOT because there is a law against it. I cannot violate your right to free speech because it does not apply to me. That's right. The first amendment protects against the GOVERNMENT's abridging or infringing upon the CITIZEN's right to speech, press..etc. Thus, if I came up and talked over you, or hell, even put a sock in your mouth, you have NO CLAIM AGAINST ME under the FIRST AMENDMENT. You may have a battery, or assault claim, and you are welcome to pursue this. Thus, unless the university, acting as a agent of the government prevented a person from speaking freely there is NO first amendment violation. That given, this JK guy is a total prick and I hope someone sticks a dirty sock in his mouth.

Alice Blaker

posted 3/24/09 @ 12:28 AM EST

Great article. I agree totally.

confused

posted 3/24/09 @ 8:55 AM EST

If I'm not mistaken, there is a noise ordinance on campus (and every other public place for that matter). I heard him yelling from inside tate with the doors closed. Wouldn't this be a violation of that ordinance? If y'all want him to leave, call the police since he is, in fact, breaking the law. I personally think it's funny when he comes to rant about how everyone is going to hell, especially since large groups of students gather and make fun of him. It's great free entertainment and much better than those annoying groups handing me fliers that I'm just going to throw away.

Wanda Ramstad

posted 4/16/09 @ 1:15 AM EST

Good and interesting article, thanks!
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