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Math department head charged with DUI despite blowing under legal limit (w/incident report)

Abstract:
Joseph Fu, head of the University's mathematics department, was arrested and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol Friday. But, Fu's breath sample of .057 grams was less than the legal limit of .08 grams for people over 21....

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CaveMan

posted 8/19/08 @ 9:31 AM EST

Too bad he doesn't play soccer.

kell

posted 8/19/08 @ 10:03 AM EST

Police at UGA and ACC are so silly. Don't let them fool you. DUI is quite a profitable industry in this town. Even this weak case will probably cost the "offender" thousands of dollars even though no law was broken.

prof

posted 8/19/08 @ 10:21 AM EST

Originally posted by

kell

Even this weak case will probably cost the "offender" thousands of dollars even though no law was broken.


I thought going the wrong way up a freeway ramp was against the law. It certainly is dangerous.

O Friendly

posted 8/19/08 @ 10:03 AM EST

He did everything wrong.

A - Don't drink and drive. You could kill somebody or yourself.

B - If you had a drink and you are driving (see A) don't draw attention to yourself by driving recklessly like, um, going the wrong way on an exit ramp. You could kill somebody or yourself.

C - If you have really screwed up and violated A and B, and find yourself talking to a cop, don't be a rude asshole. Be polite and cooperative. It may or may not keep you out of jail, but being an asshole will guarantee a bad day in court in the future.

D - If you violated A, B and C, you can still be glad if you didn't kill somebody or yourself.

You really f_cked yourself, Joseph Fu.

Mike Collins

posted 8/19/08 @ 11:51 AM EST

Proof that education doesn't make you smarter!

Baron Kelly

posted 8/19/08 @ 6:50 PM EST

This is ridiculous. If you blow under the legal limit than you are not Driving Under the Influence according to the law. Period. Just because a cop says you are drunk does not make it so. Why does the cop have any more authority on the matter than Fu, because some bureaucrat at UGA says so? Well my anus says I am God so everyone bow before me and worship. If they have made a law (which apparently they have) that whatever a cop says is irrefutable, his decisions infallible, and his power unassailable, than this world is even more jacked up than I had previously thought. Here we come police state. Luckily, cops aren't in reality mentally or physically superior to most folks so start stocking up on ammo now and we ought to come out of it okay.

old alum

posted 8/20/08 @ 12:47 AM EST

Baron, you might want to look at the actual law, which I quote:

"A person shall not drive or be in actual physical control of any moving vehicle while... Under the influence of alcohol to the extent that it is less safe for the person to drive..."

Breath tests and blood tests are ONE way of showing a person is under the influence. Watching him drive the wrong way on a freeway ramp is another.

anon

posted 8/20/08 @ 7:18 AM EST

Originally posted by

Baron Kelly

This is ridiculous. If you blow under the legal limit than you are not Driving Under the Influence according to the law. Period. Just because a cop says you are drunk does not make it so. Why does the cop have any more authority on the matter than Fu, because some bureaucrat at UGA says so? Well my anus says I am God so everyone bow before me and worship. If they have made a law (which apparently they have) that whatever a cop says is irrefutable, his decisions infallible, and his power unassailable, than this world is even more jacked up than I had previously thought. Here we come police state. Luckily, cops aren't in reality mentally or physically superior to most folks so start stocking up on ammo now and we ought to come out of it okay.


Very eloquently put, young man.

Baron Kelly

posted 8/20/08 @ 7:55 PM EST

If it is as you say, then the law is completely ambiguous and cannot be applied equally based on any physical standard but rather relies on the sole discretion of what amounts to little more than a rent-a-cop. Should the judgment of a certainly fallible person (the cop) be so supreme that it can deny the liberty of another certainly fallible person (anyone) for what essentially amounts to anytime for any reason. If you think so than you would make a perfect slave. congrats on your servility.

prof

posted 8/21/08 @ 9:13 AM EST

No, the police are not all-powerful. There's also the trial, and the judge, and the jury.

baron kelly

posted 8/21/08 @ 12:08 PM EST

"No, the police are not all-powerful. There's also the trial, and the judge, and the jury."

All of whom have been preconditioned from childhood to (irrationally) hold the word of a cop in more esteem than the word of anyone else. Our bureaucratic justice system is fundamentally flawed because it seeks neither justice nor the truth but rather operates with the express goal of obtaining as many convictions as possible, regardless of the truth. The Trial, Judge, and Jury serve as nothing more than an extension of the false authority originally exercised by the cop and therefore offer no form of counterbalance to the original injustice. Besides the fact that even if the trial, judge, and jury works to the favor of a defendant he/she has still been inconvenienced, insulted, and imposed upon by the cop in the first place and with little option for recompense.

anonymous

posted 8/20/08 @ 7:21 AM EST

The guy is either an idiot or was driving while impaired. Simple.

Either he's an idiot who doesn't know how to drive, going the wrong way up a one way ramp and all. And if he's that much of an idiot, perhaps UGA should rethink him heading up an academic department.

Or he was driving while impaired. Which is reckless and sets a horrible example for his students (in a time at which the University is hyper-concerned with alcohol abuse). If that's the case, then UGA certainly needs to rethink letting this guy head a whole department.

baron kelly

posted 8/20/08 @ 7:42 PM EST

Originally posted by

anonymous

The guy is either an idiot or was driving while impaired. Simple.

Either he's an idiot who doesn't know how to drive, going the wrong way up a one way ramp and all. And if he's that much of an idiot, perhaps UGA should rethink him heading up an academic department.

Or he was driving while impaired. Which is reckless and sets a horrible example for his students (in a time at which the University is hyper-concerned with alcohol abuse). If that's the case, then UGA certainly needs to rethink letting this guy head a whole department.


Yes, because everything in the world is either black or white, there are only ever 2 possible options, and no middle ground or gray area exists. try applying that to yourself and your own life and see how much sense your reasoning makes.

Skeptical

posted 8/20/08 @ 10:21 PM EST

Field sobriety tests are notoriously unreliable. My advice: if you ever get in a similar situation, don't agree to it! Insist on the breathalyzer, that is the only reliable test.

Anything else is a one man's opinion and it indeed (big surprise!) can be subjective.

DawgFan

posted 8/21/08 @ 11:58 AM EST

Yeah, if this guy doesn't agree to roadside tests and only agrees to blow into the Intoxilyzer at the jail he probably walks. Instead, he willingly gave the officer all kinds of evidence demonstrating just how wasted he was (being belligerent, staggering during the walking test and failing the vision test). You can bet all that evidence is on video, too, so the judge can see how wasted he was.

If he had been polite, and politely refused the roadside tests and just taken the ride to the jail to take the breath test there, he still has to go to court, but he probably walks because he was only .05 (seems like a lucky reading on his part, BTW).

And this guy is supposed to be smart? Dude, I know people who don't even have high school diplomas who have enough sense to know how they should have handled this situation!

Mark

posted 8/21/08 @ 6:27 PM EST

The legal limit is already really low to begin with. Most DUI accidents occur somewhere between 0.3 and 0.4. At 0.08, most people wouldn't even be able to tell. At 0.05, no case. Yes, he was driving on the wrong side of the ramp. That was his crime. Can't we accept that sometimes people do stupid things when they aren't drunk?

DawgFan

posted 8/21/08 @ 9:30 PM EST

Read the police report. That was my point...by taking the roadside sobriety tests, which he failed miserably, Mr. Fu guaranteed a rather easy conviction. He will plead guilty when his lawyer explains to him how damning a video of him being belligerent and staggering and stumbling around like a drunk is going to be to a judge and especially to a jury. Mr. Fu, is FU-ed.
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