The Red and Black

Originally posted by

Alum

This is GREAT news. Someone who pulled less than a 2.8 at another (presumably less difficult) school over the course of 60 hours has absolutely no business being enrolled at UGA. All these students do is take up space for 3-5 more years before eventually graduating with a worthless major or dropping out and, either way, becoming woefully underemployed. I had classes with way too many of these kids in undergrad (when I was a freshman and they were ostensibly juniors) and you could always spot the ones who had no business being there but had somehow wrangled a way to transfer in from Middle South West Gainesville Truett College Tech.

Wow Alum! I hope you don't live in the Athens area. Many transfer students initially attend other schools because they can't afford to attend UGA right away. It think it is awfully insensitive to lump all transfer students together. I agree that a GPA increase is a good thing but your assessment of transfer students is distasteful to say the least.

Originally posted by

Alum

This is GREAT news. Someone who pulled less than a 2.8 at another (presumably less difficult) school over the course of 60 hours has absolutely no business being enrolled at UGA. All these students do is take up space for 3-5 more years before eventually graduating with a worthless major or dropping out and, either way, becoming woefully underemployed. I had classes with way too many of these kids in undergrad (when I was a freshman and they were ostensibly juniors) and you could always spot the ones who had no business being there but had somehow wrangled a way to transfer in from Middle South West Gainesville Truett College Tech.

What kind of degree is worthless? At least they are trying to better themselves without asking for a handout. Just because you may have been a traditional student until you graduated doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

Originally posted by

Alum

This is GREAT news. Someone who pulled less than a 2.8 at another (presumably less difficult) school over the course of 60 hours has absolutely no business being enrolled at UGA. All these students do is take up space for 3-5 more years before eventually graduating with a worthless major or dropping out and, either way, becoming woefully underemployed. I had classes with way too many of these kids in undergrad (when I was a freshman and they were ostensibly juniors) and you could always spot the ones who had no business being there but had somehow wrangled a way to transfer in from Middle South West Gainesville Truett College Tech.

HOPE scholarship = free tuition, and not all freshman have to live on campus, i know at least two who did not. who can't afford to start at UGA? probably only those who did not graduate from high school with a 3.0.. and therefore probably don't belong at UGA.

as for you, alum, i was with you in the beginning but you kind of lost me. i agree that if you have less than a 2.8 at another school after 60 hours then you don't deserve a UGA degree, but you didn't have to start calling out names to get your point across.

I'm not talking about all transfers (which a more careful reading of my post would reveal), some of them are probably bright kids. I'm talking about the mouth-breathers that could NEVER have gotten into UGA on their actual intellectual merits, but for some reason UGA feels compelled to accept because they managed to stumble into a 2.6 taking "Introduction to algebra" and "Websites 101." These are the kids who invariably come to UGA with big plans of getting into Terry after a year or six, and end up staying around for 4-7 football seasons before graduating at 26 with a degree in something that would be hilarious if it hadn't cost them $30,000.

Originally posted by

Alum

This is GREAT news. Someone who pulled less than a 2.8 at another (presumably less difficult) school over the course of 60 hours has absolutely no business being enrolled at UGA. All these students do is take up space for 3-5 more years before eventually graduating with a worthless major or dropping out and, either way, becoming woefully underemployed. I had classes with way too many of these kids in undergrad (when I was a freshman and they were ostensibly juniors) and you could always spot the ones who had no business being there but had somehow wrangled a way to transfer in from Middle South West Gainesville Truett College Tech.

I transfered into the university in 2005 after I completed the minimum 30 hours at Georgia Perimeter College. My GPA was over 3.0 and I had no problem graduating in May 2008. I was not a traditional student, in fact, I was 33 when I came to UGA. I was married with four kids and I wouldn't trade my experience for anything.

Being an adult student, I had to endure the likes of kids yourself. People who turned their noses up at non-traditional students. The University of Georgia is for all the citizens of the state and is open to walks of life, regardless of their path. I salute any person who goes to a two year school and pays their dues to get into UGA. Good for them!!!!

Originally posted by

Alum

This is GREAT news. Someone who pulled less than a 2.8 at another (presumably less difficult) school over the course of 60 hours has absolutely no business being enrolled at UGA. All these students do is take up space for 3-5 more years before eventually graduating with a worthless major or dropping out and, either way, becoming woefully underemployed. I had classes with way too many of these kids in undergrad (when I was a freshman and they were ostensibly juniors) and you could always spot the ones who had no business being there but had somehow wrangled a way to transfer in from Middle South West Gainesville Truett College Tech.

To the girl that states that the ones who can' afford it are the ones who graduated with a 3.0 from hs: Can you at least make a connection between getting a 3.0 and not having money?

I graduated with honors with a 3.9 in HS and can't afford college right now. Had it not been for a generous donation in my family, I wouldn't be here this semester.

At least make sense when you are talking.

Originally posted by

Alum

This is GREAT news. Someone who pulled less than a 2.8 at another (presumably less difficult) school over the course of 60 hours has absolutely no business being enrolled at UGA. All these students do is take up space for 3-5 more years before eventually graduating with a worthless major or dropping out and, either way, becoming woefully underemployed. I had classes with way too many of these kids in undergrad (when I was a freshman and they were ostensibly juniors) and you could always spot the ones who had no business being there but had somehow wrangled a way to transfer in from Middle South West Gainesville Truett College Tech.

My point being to the alum, there are other fees to pay other than just tuition. HOPE covers that, but what about my first semesters $900 in books, and my monthly rent and bills, and God forbid I get hungry and need groceries.

Lighten up, not everyone chooses to go to UGA their freshman year for other reasons other than not being able to get in.

Originally posted by

Ron

Another example of how the GA lottery (HOPE) makes it harder and harder to get into a school in GA.

To me HOPE means the best and brightest kids in Georgia can now afford to go to college, without taking out thousands of dollars worth of loans, or putting a hardship on their families, or even foregoing college altogether because they can't afford to go. A little competition is a good thing; it's not like we're flushing lottery money down the drain. You have to be a good student to get HOPE, and honestly, you have to be a good student to succeed in college, anyway. Not sure what the problem is....would we rather have a first come, first served approach, where a goof-off with lots of money takes the spot of someone who is poor but a great student? This system is making our college graduates more competitive in the workplace, as well. Again, to me that's a good thing.