The Red and Black

Originally posted by

Disgusted

Amazing! You would think a life changing event such as death would humble you. However, when it comes to this young man- humility seems to be the last thing on his list. This is a disgusting representation of our University. This is extremely unfortunate for both parties.

Originally posted by

Disgusted

Amazing! You would think a life changing event such as death would humble you. However, when it comes to this young man- humility seems to be the last thing on his list. This is a disgusting representation of our University. This is extremely unfortunate for both parties.

Originally posted by

Lemonade Man

Who really cares about this? Football players are supposed to be aggressive, if anything we should see this as a good thing. If it helps our success as a football school, who cares! go dawgs!

Plus, thats fool got what comin to him - he was talkin to Lemon's girl

Originally posted by

Lemonade Man

Who really cares about this? Football players are supposed to be aggressive, if anything we should see this as a good thing. If it helps our success as a football school, who cares! go dawgs!

Plus, thats fool got what comin to him - he was talkin to Lemon's girl

Originally posted by

Lemonade Man

Who really cares about this? Football players are supposed to be aggressive, if anything we should see this as a good thing. If it helps our success as a football school, who cares! go dawgs!

Plus, thats fool got what comin to him - he was talkin to Lemon's girl

Originally posted by

student

You response is insightful, Nick. No, violence like this is never okay, but it is at least understandable, given what the guy has been through. He lost his mother; he's protecting his girl - even if he is going about it in the wrong way, it makes sense. Get off your high horse, Disgusted. I'd like to see how well you would handle those life circumstances.

I realize maybe the guy wouldn't have taken it, but it seems to me UGA's first order of business after Lemon's mom died should have been getting him help or counseling, not starting some fund.

Originally posted by

student

You response is insightful, Nick. No, violence like this is never okay, but it is at least understandable, given what the guy has been through. He lost his mother; he's protecting his girl - even if he is going about it in the wrong way, it makes sense. Get off your high horse, Disgusted. I'd like to see how well you would handle those life circumstances.

I realize maybe the guy wouldn't have taken it, but it seems to me UGA's first order of business after Lemon's mom died should have been getting him help or counseling, not starting some fund.

Originally posted by

Prof

A severe eye injury for talking to a girl???

People who embarrass the University like this shouldn't be representing it on our sports teams. Kick 'em out!

Originally posted by

Prof 2

A few more thoughts:

(1) I'm sad about Mr. Lemon's mother's death, but that doesn't justify letting Mr. Lemon hurt other people.

(2) UGA has kicked professors off the faculty for less than this. This is not to condone any kind of faculty misconduct -- but nobody got an eyeball fracture from faculty misconduct.

(3) Consider the possible lawsuits. Is the Athletic Association liable for harboring dangerous people on campus? People who are a danger to others DON'T NEED TO BE HERE.

(4) Does the NCAA ever take notice of things like this? Can a team be penalized for criminality on the part of the athletes?

(5) What about the very old-fashioned notion that varsity athletes are held to a HIGHER standard of conduct than the other students, and that (for example) an athlete in training never drinks alcohol at all? I know I'm going back 75 years here... But would they play better football if we kept them out of drunken brawls???

Originally posted by

UGA Girl 2

This is not even an issue. If Michael wasn't a football player this wouldn't even make the news...because it isn't news! Someone got punched and ended up in the hospital. Wow. Yea, WWIII is about to start. Some sort of conflict arose and everyone had had too much to drink. Michael in no way was "barbaric" or unstable in any matter. He does not need therapy and does not deserve to be kicked out of the school. He made a bad judgement call and now he is paying for it. All of you who are talking about the disgrace to your university need to look into more serious matters. Better yet, do us all a favor and switch schools.

Originally posted by

UGA Girl 2

This is not even an issue. If Michael wasn't a football player this wouldn't even make the news...because it isn't news! Someone got punched and ended up in the hospital. Wow. Yea, WWIII is about to start. Some sort of conflict arose and everyone had had too much to drink. Michael in no way was "barbaric" or unstable in any matter. He does not need therapy and does not deserve to be kicked out of the school. He made a bad judgement call and now he is paying for it. All of you who are talking about the disgrace to your university need to look into more serious matters. Better yet, do us all a favor and switch schools.

Originally posted by

UGA Girl 2

This is not even an issue. If Michael wasn't a football player this wouldn't even make the news...because it isn't news! Someone got punched and ended up in the hospital. Wow. Yea, WWIII is about to start. Some sort of conflict arose and everyone had had too much to drink. Michael in no way was "barbaric" or unstable in any matter. He does not need therapy and does not deserve to be kicked out of the school. He made a bad judgement call and now he is paying for it. All of you who are talking about the disgrace to your university need to look into more serious matters. Better yet, do us all a favor and switch schools.

Originally posted by

Cajie

Most of the posters on this article have their heads on straight and I am glad to see it! There were only a few bleeding liberal hearts turning the perpetrator into the victim comments. I agree kick him out! Off Off Off Campus now! Such behavior should not be tolerated!

Originally posted by

CoastalDawg

Isn't this the same person for whom money was accepted to help him after his loss? Apparently all that love and attention has not helped him respect others. Sorry, but the DAWGS do not NEED those with criminal records on the team; look at other teams who have allowed that to happen. Enough is really enough. Lemonade Man you are out of touch with reality if you think this is fine. Agression and competition on the football field is part of the game as long as it is within the rules of the game. Attacking someone off the field is criminal. It is time for an indefinite suspension until after the resolution of the case; if he's not found guilty, although from the report it seems as clear as day; then return him to the squad; if he's found guilty, time to go home and grow up. Isn't this the same guy who is caring for his younger brother with the funds taken up by sympathetic fans and team members? Man, these guys are giving Coach Rich and his staff a tough summer.

Originally posted by

ENOUGH

First lets make it clear LEMON'S GIRLFRIEND DID NOT RUN TO HIM TO PROTECT HER FROM DEMARIUS... Lemon's actions were out of jealousy fueled by lies told to him by a female friend of his.(That female friend openly stated she does not like the victim) This situation should have been over months ago when the rumors( by lemon's female friend) started. Lemon's girlfriend told him that the rumors were not true. The rumor in this case is very high school as well... the victim likes lemon's girl and wanted to "talk" to her... but didn't. With out any warning Lemon walked to the other side of the pool party( about 50ft) to confront the victim who was sitting on a ledge eating... Two females at the party tried to stop Lemon but he pushed them away... Lemon asked Demarius a question he replied "no". Lemon looked as though he was moving away and out of nowhere attacked. Lemon's friends (FOOTBALL PLAYERS) did huddle around in amusement... One actually laughed... and I don't remember anyone pulling him off... He must have gotten tired(Lemon did have a long day from all that drinking... as usual)... and for the person who posted that Lemon's girl does not love him you are WRONG... she puts up with all his CRAP for far too long this is just one incident that is actually reported.

And I applaud Demarius for having the balls to report this act of violence... situations like this happens all the time at UGA but never get reported because UGA FOOTBALL PLAYERS CAN DO NO WRONG AND ARE MINI GODS ON CAMPUS

Originally posted by

From somebody who was actually THERE

Most of us there were friends to both, or at least one. What's funny is how y'all think it was just "a regular fight" Lemon towers not only over his team, but demarius. Lemon might as well had fought a female. The fight wasn't fair. Lemon LIED and said he was defending himself, but when you get up from a table, put down your stuff, walk over to a man who is already sitting down, and begin to pound on him when people are SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS and CRYING, it is barbaric. And some of his friends did think it was funny but some of them were watching just as terrified he would turn on them if they tried to break it up, and they are just as responsible, because it made no sense for two girls to try and pull lemon off of demarius. Y'all weren't there, so before you make comments about "being a better football player" put yourself in the situation. Matter of fact, how would you feel if after you report your incident, the police LIE and say Lemon is in custody when he wasn't. Your laying in a hospital bed when you didn't do anything, and he is chilling, watching tv and listening to music. You can't understand what we as Demarius' friends had to go through talking to his parents while their son lay there in a hospital bed for something he didn't even do! Talk about being Mini-Gods, the police protect them when they can and often do. Take Billy for example, as soon as he stepped foot outside of Athens, he got into trouble, now maybe if he was in almighty Athens, would he still be apart of the team yall love so much. Wrong is wrong and at the end of the day we must all be accountable for the parts we play.. I feel sorry for Mark Richt, because just as talented as his team is, some do have some serious issues and KNOW that they will be protected if they mess up. I do think counseling is a good idea because , although it probably will ,this shouldn't happen again.

Originally posted by

The truth

Well i wasnt there...But lemon did some out of control stuff that should have never happened. It doesnt matter football player or not he needs to be punished. His girlfriend could have had some kind of control over him. His friends are sorry excuses for men not to stop him. He's not that great of a player so having him not on the team would not make the team suffer. An example needs to be made and maybe it should start will lemon. Breaking Faces is not Ok. Besides Demarius is a handsome guy. I dont think he would be remotely interested in Lemons girlfriend.

Originally posted by

The truth

Well i wasnt there...But lemon did some out of control stuff that should have never happened. It doesnt matter football player or not he needs to be punished. His girlfriend could have had some kind of control over him. His friends are sorry excuses for men not to stop him. He's not that great of a player so having him not on the team would not make the team suffer. An example needs to be made and maybe it should start will lemon. Breaking Faces is not Ok. Besides Demarius is a handsome guy. I dont think he would be remotely interested in Lemons girlfriend.

Originally posted by

Too much

Reading everyone's comments I feel as though some people don't understand some things, and making their own conclusions about the parties involved.

I was not at the event but I am close with some of the people it involved...

First- Lemon's girlfriend was not being protected from anything. Demarius is harmless. If anything they are close friends. It is silly for me to think she would run to Lemon about somebody "talking to his girl" unless she herself felt threatened. She has been there for Lemon since Day 1- before the death of his mother, during, and after that. She has been nothing but there for him and I KNOW everyone who knows them as a couple and testify to that. I'm sure he put her through a lot of emotional stress because it seems evident that he was suffering from some strand of PTSD-although it is not an excuse. I actually feel bad for her a little bit because her name is in a way caught in the middle when in reality I feel it had nothing to do with her. Lemon gets drunk and gets mad- he's going to want to fight. (in this case attack).

Along with that, it was a rumor- from MONTHS ago, and for Lemon to act on it now clearly shows that this really was not the problem. And for whomever put the idea in Lemon's head in the FIRST place-I will refrain from name-calling-(from a long time ago) is not really to blame- but should feel just as bad for feeding Lemon lies.

I however do not think he should be kicked off the team- what good will that do him then? Instead of kicking him out- when then he will have basically nothing (no real home), I think he should stay, get his education, and move on.

I feel bad for the hostess and everyone who attended the party for a good time.

The other teammates involved (or should I say not involved?)
-To my knowledge- when you all fight you keep it "one on one" because anyone else who tries to fight- even breaking it up- will get in trouble. In this case, you all should feel ashamed ( YOU WHO WERE STANDING ONLY TWO-THREE FEET AWAY!)

Demarius- Don't let the stupidity and ignorance bring you down

Lemon- I hope you learn from this situation, better yourself, and grow up.

Girlfriend- Keep your head up- because people talk.

PEOPLE STOP ALL THE HE SAID SHE SAID/ RUMOR SPREADING/ MAKING UP LIES... KARMA IS A .....

Originally posted by

Wilt Chamberlain

He got knocked da F@CK OUT!!!

Originally posted by

Unbiased

I don't know any of these people, but it seems that this whole situation is being looked at from the wrong perspectives. We need to look at what Michael Lemon did and what actions need to be taken to alleviate this problem as well as help him learn to function in a healthy manner and receive the therapy that he very well may need for past situations. I don't think that it is remotely fair that people are blaming others that were present, his football player friends are in the wrong don't get me wrong, but how is Michael's girlfriend to blame and why does it even need to go there. Also clearly according to other posts, he didn't even stop when girls tried to break up the fight. We don't know how he treats her or what she has to deal with on a daily basis. I hope that the football coaches or whoever is wiling and able can get MIchael professional help and that his girlfriend sees that perhaps she needs to put herself first and get out of this potentially threatening relationship.

Originally posted by

CP!

1. Clearly we have ignorant ass mother fuckers attending this school. you CANNOT justify such actions. I understand and i am sadden about Lemon's mother, but it is still UNJUST to just hit people HALF your size, because of what you HEARD. I mean do u not think my d-man should have to pay for the medical expenses that Lemon forced upon him?? REALLY? come on now.

2. Don't do Lemon's "girl" DO NOT DO HER! She already feels bad enough and has sincerely apologized to all parties hurt by the incident, it was CLEARLY out of her control. She along with all BUT ONE of the other football players were on THE OTHER SIDE of the gate, while the fight was at least 50-100 ft away and inside a gate, and it was too late for any of them to do ANYTHING by the time they got there.

3. Back to you IGNORANT ass people, who think this shit is COOL, FUNNY, or just plain OK. That shit ain't cool, i wish you were THERE to see one of YOUR BEST FRIENDS hit repeatedly and you try but can't do anything about it. I wish you were in the hospital ALL effing night not knowing if one of YOUR BEST FRIENDS are gonna completely heal. GROW the HELL up and realize if you mess wit anyone THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT to press charges, i don't give a damn about your past, present or future, if u fuck up you need some type of punishment. Cause I'll be damned if i had to pay for my medical bills, or any other money that i lost, because of a jealous rage from a BULL SHITTY ASS RUMOR!!!

4. Last one... IF YOU WAS A TRUE "BEST FRIEND" as you claim you are, you won't let him go down BY HIMSELF for something that COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED if u MINDED YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS...

I'm DONE...Deuces