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Historic Obama win no surprise for University community

Abstract:
With wins in several toss-up states and Sen. John McCain's late-night concession, Sen. Barack Obama became the first black man to be elected president of the United States, ending one of the most historical and hotly contested races in American history. In Athens Tuesday night, University students and professors expressed their expectations of the election and the factors they thought contributed to Obama's win....

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John Smith

posted 11/05/08 @ 9:41 AM EST

I didn't mind that Obama won, either would do better than our current president. It just really bugs me to read from everyone that this is the first "Black" president to win in the United States. His father was Black, and his mother was White, and he was raised in a white household without his Black father. To my math skills that's 50% Black or less if you want to count who he was raised by.
It's just comical to me that we are being raised to not judge by the color of someone's skin, to stop seeing things according to race, but to look at things as a whole. We are all Americans and we have a new American president. And if need be, you can call Obama our first multiracial president but not Black. If he is considered Black, please tell me what is the minimum percent of "Black" you need to have to be considered Black.
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Tasha

posted 11/05/08 @ 12:48 PM EST

Originally posted by

John Smith

 I didn't mind that Obama won, either would do better than our current president. It just really bugs me to read from everyone that this is the first "Black" president to win in the United States. His father was Black, and his mother was White, and he was raised in a white household without his Black father. To my math skills that's 50% Black or less if you want to count who he was raised by.
It's just comical to me that we are being raised to not judge by the color of someone's skin, to stop seeing things according to race, but to look at things as a whole. We are all Americans and we have a new American president. And if need be, you can call Obama our first multiracial president but not Black. If he is considered Black, please tell me what is the minimum percent of "Black" you need to have to be considered Black.


It's funny to me that for years and years Blacks have been determined to be black according to the one drop rule. One drop of black blood and you are black. Listening to both McCain's and Obama's speeches after the election was over, did you hear their supporters. Obama's supporters when we mentioned the great attributes that McCain had applauded with humility UNLIKE McCain's supporters who when Obama was mentioned showed absolutely no class by responding with BOO's or derogatory comments.
For years, we have been lead by a white presidents and have never caught wind of a possible assassination being based on race alone but we have our first "Black" president and that's all that you hear about. Being born and raised in Georgia is doesn't surprise me but yet it still deeply saddens me. Last night when African American students were celebrating you what sharp words were heard. NIGGER, TERRORISTS. Like seriously. Every time African Americans achieve greatness its always met with backlash. We run fast and jump higher because oh yeah WE HAVE AN EXTRA muscle. We have a black president. Well technically if he's mixed. SO WHY AREN'T WHITE PEOPLE CLAIMING HIM.

Either get over the FACT THAT OUR PRESIDENT IS BLACK. Or report to your nearest KLAN rally because I know that many are happening.
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A person

posted 11/05/08 @ 3:20 PM EST

Originally posted by

John Smith

 If he is considered Black, please tell me what is the minimum percent of "Black" you need to have to be considered Black.


According to the GA Penal Codes 1/16th
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Michael Prochaska

posted 11/05/08 @ 10:10 AM EST

The article istelf is fair, unbiased, and objective

however, I have a problem with the Headline though
There are many republicans on campus who never lost hope in McCain. To say Obama's win was no surprise is not only an opinion but a biased opinion.
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Jeremiah

posted 11/05/08 @ 10:58 AM EST

Originally posted by

Michael Prochaska

 The article istelf is fair, unbiased, and objective

however, I have a problem with the Headline though
There are many republicans on campus who never lost hope in McCain. To say Obama's win was no surprise is not only an opinion but a biased opinion.


No, it's the universal opinion. Whether you are a republican or not, you're a moron if you though McCain had anything more than a tiny chance. Obama had an 8 point lead in most polls. 538.com gave him something like a 1-2% chance to take the election. Odds on popular betting sites were offering odds like 15-1 on McCain winning the election (meaning a win percentage of far less than 10%).

Pretty much everyone saw this coming a mile away.
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Paul

posted 11/05/08 @ 10:51 AM EST

Actually, Saxby Chambliss currently has 49.9% of the vote with 96% of precincts reporting. If he stays below 50%, a runoff will be required.
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Jacques

posted 11/05/08 @ 11:13 AM EST

Aw man, I'm so glad Barack Obama got elected! The war in Iraq is over! The troops are on their way home as we speak! Our military won't be meddling in other countries business anymore, no way.

The world loves us again! Chaaaange!

Now we're gonna finish the job in Afghanistan! I mean, sure it's another war, but at least I have change!

I dont have to worry about the government spying on my phone calls and email anymore! No more PATRIOT act!

The economy is gonna be fixed! With a few more taxes, those big corporations are gonna do just fine and not raise any prices. Won't affect me one bit, no sir.
Stupid, greedy, American industries!

The endless battle between Left and Right is over! Sure, both parties are owned by the same group of bankers and elites, but at least I know they gave me the choice between which of their puppets to elect!

Issues that divide us, that never get solved for some odd reason, like abortion and religion, wont be a problem anymore.

Nope, now that we have a black President, this country is changed.

I mean, he's an african american! His last name isn't Bush! Our politicians won't be bought and paid for by lobbyists anymore!

Congress will agree on EVERYTHING now and get stuff done!

The War on Terror is officially OVER.
Phew.

Obama supporters, congratulations: You have given this country someone new to trust, and later blame... just in the nick of time, too! We were starting to catch on that our government isn't run by the will of the people anymore.

God bless America.
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DT

posted 11/05/08 @ 12:24 PM EST

Originally posted by

Jacques

 Aw man, I'm so glad Barack Obama got elected! The war in Iraq is over! The troops are on their way home as we speak! Our military won't be meddling in other countries business anymore, no way.

The world loves us again! Chaaaange!

Now we're gonna finish the job in Afghanistan! I mean, sure it's another war, but at least I have change!

I dont have to worry about the government spying on my phone calls and email anymore! No more PATRIOT act!

The economy is gonna be fixed! With a few more taxes, those big corporations are gonna do just fine and not raise any prices. Won't affect me one bit, no sir.
Stupid, greedy, American industries!

The endless battle between Left and Right is over! Sure, both parties are owned by the same group of bankers and elites, but at least I know they gave me the choice between which of their puppets to elect!

Issues that divide us, that never get solved for some odd reason, like abortion and religion, wont be a problem anymore.

Nope, now that we have a black President, this country is changed.

I mean, he's an african american! His last name isn't Bush! Our politicians won't be bought and paid for by lobbyists anymore!

Congress will agree on EVERYTHING now and get stuff done!

The War on Terror is officially OVER.
Phew.

Obama supporters, congratulations: You have given this country someone new to trust, and later blame... just in the nick of time, too! We were starting to catch on that our government isn't run by the will of the people anymore.

God bless America.


Wow. A little cynical aren't we? I feel sorry for you.
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sigh....

posted 11/05/08 @ 11:40 AM EST

John Smith, I can understand your arguement here that Obama is not true "black" but this is simply an arguement that you will never be able to win. Possibly if you move somewhere up North and devote you're life to classifying Obama as multiracial instead of black then you MIGHT make some progress. The fact of the matter is his skin is not white but rather is black. I'm not saying this isn't ok, I am simply stating that your fighting a pointless arguement that you will never make headway on.

As far as Jacques's comment goes.... I do not believe I can even begin to list the numerous amount of politically incorrect statements. It is ignorant misguided liberal media watching fools like this guy who got Obama elected to the highest most prestige position in the United States of America. If he turns out doing a good job, I will be the first to admit it, however, I simply do not believe that this will be the case.
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Evan

posted 11/05/08 @ 12:26 PM EST

Originally posted by

sigh....

 John Smith, I can understand your arguement here that Obama is not true "black" but this is simply an arguement that you will never be able to win. Possibly if you move somewhere up North and devote you're life to classifying Obama as multiracial instead of black then you MIGHT make some progress. The fact of the matter is his skin is not white but rather is black. I'm not saying this isn't ok, I am simply stating that your fighting a pointless arguement that you will never make headway on.

As far as Jacques's comment goes.... I do not believe I can even begin to list the numerous amount of politically incorrect statements. It is ignorant misguided liberal media watching fools like this guy who got Obama elected to the highest most prestige position in the United States of America. If he turns out doing a good job, I will be the first to admit it, however, I simply do not believe that this will be the case.



Buddy, I believe Jacques was being sarcastic.
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sigh....

posted 11/05/08 @ 2:55 PM EST

if that's the case and he was being sarcastic then my bad. With the way people are these days it wouldn't surprise me at all if someone said that and meant it.
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ha ha

posted 11/05/08 @ 3:15 PM EST

The south's ignorance continues to amaze me. Pathetic.
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CoastalDawg

posted 11/05/08 @ 3:17 PM EST

And the rhetoric goes on and on. Why would people in the western half of the country even bother to go to the polls? The media decides and calls a winner virtually within hours of polls closing on the EAST coast so who wants to waste time and effort voting in an election that is already over? We have yet to see the real Obama if HE even knows if the real Obama even exists. The whole campaign has been based on murky information at best except for a few which defy logic in getting votes: it is his intention to raise taxes on "rich" people and businesses, a definite incentive to growth, right? Ha! In the beginning his "comfort" level was $250,000, then he dropped it to $200,000 and in finality I believe it dropped to $150,000, all to finance socialist programs that could easily bankrupt our country. His "blackness" prevailed; trust me, I observed the voting process up close and personal and although I don't exactly know for whom people voted it's easily to calculate based on the number of people of what race attended a given poll. I saw sick people who probably didn't even KNOW that they had been dragged to a poll to be "assisted" by family members - I saw one man who was SO sick that he never was able to leave his chair after his family had voted for him and had to be removed by ambulance. I saw an elderly lady at a nursing home poll wheel herself out to vote only to be told that she had already voted by absentee ballot- her "attendant" reminded her and as she wheeled away she said "I didn't even know that I voted". So congratulations, we have elected someone with virtually NO experience at anything, someone who wants to make the sacrifices of over 4,100 of our nation's finest by just bringing all the troops home and acting as if their lives were worthless, waving the white flag of surrender to terrorists everywhere. In addition to all that, what is the real point of continuing to count votes if an election is "over"? An election like this has cost the nations untold hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars and it all came down to a few states and CNN declaring that it was all over. We shall see what we shall see in coming months but the picture looks as murky as the president elect's qualifications, which by the way are STILL in question because it has not been officially verified whether or not he was actually born in Kenya. But he IS the president elect and it is our duty and privilege to try to heal our land. Gloating is entirely out of place as is a hate campaign like the Democrats have waged over the past eight years. THERE is where our shame should lie because leaders, including Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, have shown total disrespect for the office of the presidency. Congress has the lowest rating in our history, yet more Democrats were elected ousting Republicans. How can we expect real change if we keep trying to same thing year after year? It is beyond me why people really give little more attention than was given to real issues rather than to charisma of a man who grew up biracial but suddenly became black. Now though is the time for America to TRY to heal the wounds and become one nation under God again, not a racially divided and wounded creature that has been created over the last few months.
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Tom Ratcliffe

posted 11/06/08 @ 9:23 AM EST

Originally posted by

CoastalDawg

 Now though is the time for America to TRY to heal the wounds and become one nation under God again, not a racially divided and wounded creature that has been created over the last few months.


I feel very sorry for you.
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G

posted 11/05/08 @ 6:40 PM EST

I like how a professor doesn't even know that there is NO consitutional right to vote in a presidental election...just a shame these are the people teaching us.
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Blaise Parker

posted 11/05/08 @ 10:17 PM EST

Originally posted by

G

 I like how a professor doesn't even know that there is NO consitutional right to vote in a presidental election...just a shame these are the people teaching us.


Oh for the love of pete. She's a PSYCHOLOGY professor. She's not teaching students political science. She's teaching them PSYCHOLOGY. I also have a PhD in psychology, and I've never taken a single course in political science. Does that disqualify me from teaching college students?

Her statement wasn't even particularly outrageous--I would bet that a significant portion of the US population would, if asked, state that the Constitution guarantees the right to vote (and, for that matter, the right to privacy, another right not specifically enumerated in the Constitution).

It's like you're just looking for things to be offended about.
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A lawyer

posted 12/02/08 @ 9:11 PM EST

Originally posted by

G

 I like how a professor doesn't even know that there is NO consitutional right to vote in a presidental election...just a shame these are the people teaching us.


The original commenter is obviously clueless (as well as bitter and rude). Under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution once a state legislature chooses a statewide election as the means to implement its power to appoint members of the Electoral College, the residents of that state have a federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States. See Bush v. Gore, 531 US 98 (2000). And it turns out that all fifty states have done just that--in each state the citizens themselves vote for Presidential electors. Moreover, once a state legislature vests the right to vote for President in its people, the right to vote becomes a "fundamental right" protected by the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the 14th Amendment. Of course, this doesn't mean states can't put limits on the right to vote--they can and do (hence, polling places). But this is no different than any other constitutional right such as freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, etc. A state just needs a compelling justification for the restriction to satisfy the exacting standard of strict scrutiny.

Indeed, it is because the right to vote for President is protected by the Constitution that our commenter will most likely be free to vote in future Presidential elections. Sadly, I fear a state law that strips one's right to vote for being a rude ignoramus just wouldn't survive a constitutional challenge. Accordingly, I can only hope he/she starts going to class in hopes of actually learning something rather than peddling such boorish nuggets of ignorance on the Internet.

Sincerely,
A lawyer
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