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Arrests of incoming freshmen yield different outcomes (w/police reports)

Abstract:
Two incoming freshmen, arrested for alcohol-related offenses within a week of each other in June, have different plans for the fall semester.
One will be in Athens, and one will not. ...

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CoastalDawg

posted 7/17/08 @ 11:50 AM EST

It will be interesting to learn why the difference in treatment of these two individuals. One has to wonder if the out of state status of the one who was dismissed had a part to play. Both basically committed the same offense except the one caught in the alley lied to the police about having identification. NOW, does no one go after the bar that served these people? THEY will continue to do so unless and until that bar or those bars are closed. True enough that underage drinking is a problem of the individual, and problem it is if an 18 year old is already getting so drunk he can hardly stand. But allowing bars which SERVE those underage drinking is a big problem. Kids, and they ARE kids if they cannot control themselves, who go off to college and get drunk during orientation are NOT ready for the big time - give their slots to someone who might actually want to go to college for an education. Chances are that those who drink during orientation will eventually find themselves before whatever board UGA has to deal with those problems and might well eventually be booted from the school, wasting those years which some serious student might have used. It hardly seems fair though that one student goes home but the other one registers for classes, with one strike already against him. With the two strike policy in effect, does that mean that Biringer already has one alcohol related incident on his record? The university needs to step up to the plate and NOT allow ANYONE who is guilty of an alcohol related incident to enroll in classes if he/she is an incoming freshman. IF that should happen word just MIGHT get around that UGA is serious about dealing with people who have a problem with alcohol...
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Andy

posted 7/17/08 @ 1:14 PM EST

Hey R&B,

How come the Police Reports are not available as pdf? I would like to read them... thanks!
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Shadowrider

posted 7/17/08 @ 3:00 PM EST

The coverage of minor events like this as major news is almost as disgusting as the draconian sanctions meted out by our administration.
Compare the harm these young men did to the harm done them. Denying someone an education for the mere posession of alchohol? Even if they get into college, what are their prospects for jobs? Certainly diminished given the front page publicity.
Ironically, our society judges these young men as responsible enough to make just about any decision but whether to consume alchohol. They can vote, sign contracts, get married, have children and serve in the military... yet the decision to have a beer is considered somehow on a higher plane. Then, after they make this decision, we punish them not only as though they were adults, but even more severely. Punished, I might add, by people who most likely consumed alchohol themselves before they were 21 and may still do so at tailgate parties.

We often forget that we teach the students more than we know. What we are teaching here is that sanctimonious hypocrisy is valid, that there are no such things as privacy rights and that discrimination against those younger than yourself is commendable.

The shame that has been heaped on these two should really belong to the people at the Red and Black and the UGA administration.
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Getalife

posted 7/17/08 @ 4:11 PM EST

Seriously r&b, when will you stop this? No one cares. And those that do, have no lives. I am of age but will say I drank underage, can you say any different? Get a life, report the news, not the gossip of the week. Pathetic journalism continues. Yes people end up reading this b.s. but the majority end up despising you for it. Pathetic a million times over. Like the post said above, we commend those who go off to die for our country so you can write this garbage but yet we denounce a kid for "drinking in college, ooooo, who would have thought, a kid drinking in college, wow. You continue to embarass our university and our student body with your biased, incomplete, tabloid journalism. Incomplete because you could'nt put both police reports up because you know they weren't "similar" at all, now were they?
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Lara

posted 7/17/08 @ 8:37 PM EST

Originally posted by

Getalife

 Seriously r&b, when will you stop this? No one cares. And those that do, have no lives. I am of age but will say I drank underage, can you say any different? Get a life, report the news, not the gossip of the week. Pathetic journalism continues. Yes people end up reading this b.s. but the majority end up despising you for it. Pathetic a million times over. Like the post said above, we commend those who go off to die for our country so you can write this garbage but yet we denounce a kid for "drinking in college, ooooo, who would have thought, a kid drinking in college, wow. You continue to embarass our university and our student body with your biased, incomplete, tabloid journalism. Incomplete because you could'nt put both police reports up because you know they weren't "similar" at all, now were they?


Wow. Educate yourself. Freedom of press is a done deal here in the States. Nobody from our country is fighting in a war for journalistic rights and to say that people are "dying for this county so that people can write this" is an insult. Please find a different argument, because ignorance isn't working. Thanks.
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Wow

posted 7/17/08 @ 4:55 PM EST

Getalife, that was quite a response from someone who doesn't care.
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Joe S

posted 7/17/08 @ 10:22 PM EST

Getalife:
You know, you should actually read the story before writing dumbass things. The story is about the inequity of a university that punishes one student for drinking and not another. It's not a story about underage drinking. And if you don't care, why are you even responding? I swear the utter stupidity of some people is astounding. Both the reports are up, by the way, and they are quite similar. Or is your reading ability as bad as your attempt at writing? Maybe you should just stop reading the paper altogether since you don't really seem to grasp the meaning of the stories.
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kol

posted 7/18/08 @ 3:43 AM EST

Getalife and Shadowrider (Which by the way is a kick ass screename!):
Let's get to together over a drink sometime. First, we'll talk about how lame stories about the school we attend are and then we'll go into deep, thoughtful conversations concerning society and also how equally lame, if not lamer, they are. Preferable meeting place: Starbucks.
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George P. Burdell

posted 7/18/08 @ 8:37 AM EST

Purewall has been saved, he has a bright future now that his resume will not have UGAG printed on it. Biringer however is typical dawg nation. He will be convicted of spousal abuse in 6 years and felony robbery in 8.

Purewall will likely become a systems analyst and make $200k per year.
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truth train

posted 7/19/08 @ 7:35 PM EST

Originally posted by

George P. Burdell

 Purewall has been saved, he has a bright future now that his resume will not have UGAG printed on it. Biringer however is typical dawg nation. He will be convicted of spousal abuse in 6 years and felony robbery in 8.

Purewall will likely become a systems analyst and make $200k per year.



1. You can become a systems analyst going to Georgia Tech or ITT Tech. Both degrees hold the same prestige.

2. All Tech girls are fat, ugly, and Asian.

3. The only thing you're being "saved" from by going to Tech over UGA is watching quality sports, getting laid, and having a life.
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Tyrone

posted 7/18/08 @ 10:08 AM EST

Let's put this obvious but unstated fact out there right now...one was accepted to the University because he is white. The other is a minority and was not allowed to enroll.

It's 2+2=4.

This smacks of racism. Blatent and disgusting racism.
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Dawggone

posted 7/18/08 @ 11:07 AM EST

Originally posted by

Tyrone

 Let's put this obvious but unstated fact out there right now...one was accepted to the University because he is white. The other is a minority and was not allowed to enroll.

It's 2+2=4.

This smacks of racism. Blatent and disgusting racism.


Keep that race card in your pocket. There is not enough information out to use it.
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Chip

posted 7/22/08 @ 11:29 AM EST

Originally posted by

Tyrone

 Let's put this obvious but unstated fact out there right now...one was accepted to the University because he is white. The other is a minority and was not allowed to enroll.

It's 2+2=4.

This smacks of racism. Blatent and disgusting racism.



I will tell you about racism. My daughter scored higher than most minorities at our beloved state college but was not accepted because she is white. We already have to many white people at UGA.
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Chok

posted 7/22/08 @ 4:17 PM EST

Originally posted by

Tyrone

 Let's put this obvious but unstated fact out there right now...one was accepted to the University because he is white. The other is a minority and was not allowed to enroll.

It's 2+2=4.

This smacks of racism. Blatent and disgusting racism.


It is about racism. The reason minorities are accepted is because this school has to meet a quota. A certain number of minority students need to be accepted. Minority students may have scored lower on the SAT but the education blacks receive at schools in predominately black neighborhoods does not compare to the education received at a white school.

Let's put a face on reality. The Indian boy was kicked out because he was not white.
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Nick

posted 7/24/08 @ 11:21 AM EST

actually, quota systems are illegal and no college may use one. affirmative action policies are not quota systems.
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Getalife

posted 7/18/08 @ 2:39 PM EST

i read the red and black because its something to do during class. i care because i want something worth reading while im in class. i care because its pathetic that a rookie news team is trying to mess up a kids life because they are so high and mighty to think that underage drinking is root of all evil.

To Joe S: your obviously ignorant on the matter. it is about underage drinking if you read the red and black on a regular basis because thats all they love to write about and about 95% of the student body is sick of it. The other 5% is made up of red and black and twats like you. that's right i pulled out "twat" from the word bank because that's obviously what you are commenting on my writing. you think i care about my grammar skills, oops left the first letter uncapitalized.

the rule is clear, if you read the article why the two cases are different. to the person who pulled out the race card, i feel sorry for you, your going to waste your life away playing the victim. good luck with that.
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dawg

posted 7/18/08 @ 4:54 PM EST

Originally posted by

Getalife

 i read the red and black because its something to do during class. i care because i want something worth reading while im in class. i care because its pathetic that a rookie news team is trying to mess up a kids life because they are so high and mighty to think that underage drinking is root of all evil.

To Joe S: your obviously ignorant on the matter. it is about underage drinking if you read the red and black on a regular basis because thats all they love to write about and about 95% of the student body is sick of it. The other 5% is made up of red and black and twats like you. that's right i pulled out "twat" from the word bank because that's obviously what you are commenting on my writing. you think i care about my grammar skills, oops left the first letter uncapitalized.

the rule is clear, if you read the article why the two cases are different. to the person who pulled out the race card, i feel sorry for you, your going to waste your life away playing the victim. good luck with that.


You're: Contraction of the words "you are," e.g., "You're not winning any awards with that writing."

Your is a possessive form of a personal pronoun, e.g., "I do not like your comment."

Both: "Your comment shows that you're not the brightest."
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truth train

posted 7/19/08 @ 7:32 PM EST

Originally posted by

Getalife

 i read the red and black because its something to do during class. i care because i want something worth reading while im in class. i care because its pathetic that a rookie news team is trying to mess up a kids life because they are so high and mighty to think that underage drinking is root of all evil.

To Joe S: your obviously ignorant on the matter. it is about underage drinking if you read the red and black on a regular basis because thats all they love to write about and about 95% of the student body is sick of it. The other 5% is made up of red and black and twats like you. that's right i pulled out "twat" from the word bank because that's obviously what you are commenting on my writing. you think i care about my grammar skills, oops left the first letter uncapitalized.

the rule is clear, if you read the article why the two cases are different. to the person who pulled out the race card, i feel sorry for you, your going to waste your life away playing the victim. good luck with that.




Maybe he should pay attention in class instead of reading the Red and Black.
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Despicable.

posted 7/18/08 @ 4:13 PM EST

First of all, these students chose to mess up their own lives by underage drinking. Sure, I agree with whoever made the statement that those who vote and serve in the miliatry still can't drink, which is ridiculous, but as of now the drinking age is 21. They both made the decision to break a law, and are suffering the consequences.
I agree with CoastalDawg's comment. The students should be reprimanded (as they have been), and the bar(s) that served, and probably are still serving, alcohol to minors should be punished as well.
However, to George P. Burdell, plenty of people become successful no matter which college is on their resume. And as for Purewal, if he is smart enough to break a law in Athens, he is probably smart enough to do so wherever he does end up going to school, so please don't just assume that UGA students are all ridiculously stupid alcoholic drug addicts, as your comment implies.
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CC

posted 7/18/08 @ 5:22 PM EST

These incidents are similar. Key word is similar. The kid kicked out of school was charged with urinating in public, the other boy was not. Do you think that was enough of a differance? Attitude may have played a part also.
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Here's an Idea

posted 7/18/08 @ 11:42 PM EST

Here is an idea I propose to the Red and Black. When school starts back in the Fall, ask students to go online and take a poll whether or not they want you to continue these pointless stories about underage drinking. Be honest with the results of course and let's see what happens. It'll be interesting. Down for that?
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Busted

posted 7/19/08 @ 5:34 PM EST

I am interested in knowing about such incidents. These stories are the same all across the country. It is a shame that the University chooses to take such a blind-eye approach to a 'problem', and these articles publish that.

When the average age that a person begins drinking is 16, why is it a good reason to keep the honest waiting, and the dishonest unwatched? This makes the university look foolish; standing with its hands in the air pretending to be ignorant. Underage drinking occurs, because most people could care less. Mothers Against Drunk Driving had reasons for pushing 21, but I feel that their concepts are ineffective, and deserve to be altered.

Education is better now than it has ever been, and I believe that the young people in this country are far more aware of the dangers of drunk driving than they were 20 years ago. Moving the drinking age down should be inevitable if alcohol is to remain one of the few legal social-drugs available.

How often do you see people take 'one for the road'? That was pretty common when MADD was up in arms. Think about it...
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exactly the point

posted 7/21/08 @ 3:41 AM EST

I couldn't agree more that drunk driving is the more important issue. That's why cops need to be on the streets with road blocks or parking lots (where other stuff happens too as we saw this past year with stabbings and theft) instead of perched outside of bars on their bikes waiting for a kid to get turned down. If the police are really here to "protect and serve" our community, they would put more effort in preventing drunk driving, not hunting underage kids.
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Bryan

posted 7/21/08 @ 10:34 AM EST

Charleston and Atlanta both suck so this isn't really that big of a loss.
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